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your children in the stuffy state schools, your background makes you successful. you are right, private school all the way through, and albany law school, no ivy league whatever, and i did all right so don't sweat it if your kid does not make it into the ivy league pre-school. here is ship -- shepard. >>shepard: i am shephard smith reporting from a frigid night from japan as the nuclear situation appeared earlier to be spinning out-of-control, and we are just getting word that the operator of the the tsunami crippled nuclear plant has almost complete add brand influence power line that could restore electricity to the complex and possibly solve the crisis. this as the head of the
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international atomic industry confirmed part of a meltdown if reactors one, two, and three of the crippled fukushima power plant calling the situation "very serious." and says he is headed to japan now to deal with the crisis in person. right now, it is difficult to get specifics about what exactly is happening inside the plant. we do know a fuel storage pond at one reactor is believed to be leaking radiation now. and there may be some damage to the containment vessel. crews are desperately trying to keep the fuel rods cool, to prevent them from burning through the concrete containers, and sending mass amounts of radioactive material into the atmosphere. japan's defense minister reports that shoppers had to abirth the mission to drop seawater on the place after radiation levels were too high in the air above the facility. some 50 plant workers who stayed behind had to abandon the
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complex because of the danger and we are told they are back on the scene truly risking their own lives, to try to prevent a total nuclear capacity. the japanese government announced it has doubled the legal amount of radiation exposure it allows for nuclear reactors, and increased it by 150 percent and officials say the decision was unavoidable given the circumstances, and the circumstances are extremely dire. the confirmed death toll top 4,000 tonight but that number is likely to rise considerably, in fact, a private estimate is more than 10,000 people are believed to be dead. of course, thousands are missing, including half the population of a town that was home to 17,000 people before last week's monster wave demolished the town. search-and-rescue crews fining new survivors now. >> it is tuesday, in new york, is it?
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well, now, freezing temperatures and snow fall are adding to the enormous hardships for millions of survivors who have already lost so much. and now greg is live from one of the main airports. greg, the nuclear threat causing people to panic. what is the scene where you are? >>guest: absolutely, we are at the airport where it is one of two serving tokyo and it is early in the morning and people are already arriving and it has been a mob scene here and the fear of radiation fueling a lot of people to get moving. japanese thinking they may want to go to another part of the country, foreigners wanting to get out of done and france making a call to leave complicating matters. airlines are not serving anymore for safety reasons. and we spent time in the extra of tokyo to check things out there early today and we found that the locals are no major
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relaxed about this than anyone else. take a look at what we saw or heard. this is the 5th avenue of tokyo formally the sidewalk would be packed with people and normally that street would be bumper to bumper with cars but with government warnings about radiation levels, staying inside, and fears of a possible impending nuclear catastrophe, the thriving con justed me drop police of tokyo is locking -- looking more and more like a ghost run. >> there have been runs on fuel, food, and shops are closed. the city is a city of 13 million, and the fear levels are soaring here in the city. >>shepard: and give us an update on the relief effort. >>guest: that is remarkable, nuclear angle is totally overshadowing the humanitarian side and that story is huge. dire.
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desperate. the rescue effort involved not just japanese but international efforts including americans. what people are saying on the ground, now, we are five-plus days away from the earthquake and tsunami, at the end of a survival rate but they are still looking, not helping, that weather includes snow and the uss ronald reagan carrier serving the operation with rescue relief hill corporates, flying nothing today as well as subfreezing temperatures as we have been reminding our viewers there are half a million people evacuated from the quake zone and they are sent to shelters with in electricity, no heat, no water. and a final footnote, another grim note, as the death toll rises, the new problem is what to do, how to handle the bodies. >>shepard: thank you, greg, from tokyo's international airport. thank you very much. and now more on the nuclear
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situation from gordon chan, a journalist and expert on nuclear issues in the far east, author of the book "nuclear showdown." gordon, thank you. it's very difficult, gordon, to get specific information on what is happening to the north. first there was an evacuation yesterday which led everyone to believe they were not able to put water on the thing, and now the information is spotty at best. what is your assessment? >>guest: the situation is out-of-control. we have known that now for 18 hours when they evacuated the plant workers and they are back on site and trying to put water on the fuel rods but the efforts look desperate. there are unconfirmed reports that japan has asked for the u.s. navy to send in the nuclear teams, and they work with onboard disasters on ships and they are ago quipped to handle this. if they do in the get the power line back on the u.s. navy probably is the only back stop teen now and disaster.
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>>shepard: that power line is something i must say, we did not realize they were able to work on, and now we get word that, in fact, they hope the power line is close to complete. of course, it has become the norm, no specifics of any kind, no idea what "soon" means or how much mower they can supply or to what effect. if you can get the automated systems back up and get the water running through, this could be solved? is that after overstatement? >>guest: it could be solved if water is on the fuel rods but, remember, this is an issue of time because in the last 24 hours we have heard about the broach in the container vessel for reactor number three. and that means there could be a lot of radioactivity into the atmosphere. we saw 50 miles away there was contamination of iodine radiation in the water. it was only trace elements but it shows the radiation has gotten out of the plant area.
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>>shepard: going forward, long term effect, until we know exactly what has been released and where it is, now, there is really no way to assess that, is there? >>guest: that is right. when the radiation is in the soil we are talking four or five years before there can actually be a complete clean you of the area. so, essentially right now, we just have to wait to see how much radiation gets out. we have two reactor vessels that are broached, three fires, three explosions, and now we have a situation where essentially it is out of control when the international atomic energy agency says it's "serious," we know it is very, very serious. >>shepard: gordon chang from new york. fear from the radiation of the damaged reactors is spreading now to america's west coast despite officials saying there is nothing to wore about. some people are reacting to the
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news. and a few dozen people taking on an incredibly dangerous mission going inside the nuclear plant and trying to prevent a full-scale meltdown.
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sells at enormous risk to prevent a bigger catastrophe at the plant. we are told the plant operators have been rotating the workers in and out of the most dangerous part of the facility to minimize their exposure. in for 15. out for 45. back in and back out but the danger is everywhere. reports indicate that the workers have been crawling through the dark carrying flashlights and heavy equipment, listening for explosions and struggling to keep water flowing to the reactors. yesterday, officials say they pulled out the remaining plant workers because of rising radiation level and we got the word yesterday, on tuesday night, new york time and they said we're evacuating the plant we cannot have them if there anymore because the radiation level is spiked so far and in an hour and a half they put them back in saying the levels had fallen and the workers were reported to return. and now, from new york city, what more do we know of the workers and what they are doing?
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>>jonathan: no one is telling us very much at all. but experts say this crew will be working in the most difficult circumstances imaginable, crawling through the dark and also wearing breathing machines and heavy oxygen tanks to help them breathe as they go through the nuclear reactors. they will be clothed head to toe in the full-body jump suits but those don't offer much protection at all from the radiation levels that they will experience there. but i spoke to one former nuclear plant worker earlier today who toll us this is exactly what they are trained for. listen. the plant workers are especially trained, selected many from the military back ground and these people are used to doing these kind of tasks. this is a little outside the norm. >>jonathan: a little outside the norm, an understatement, and
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we are not told the identities of any of the crew working there but it is safe to say they are all heroes putting their lives on the line to try to save some of their fellow citizens. >>shepard: there has been a suggestion that the best comparison to their work is that of the crew that battled the leak of chernobyl in 1986. what happened to them? >>jonathan: the chernobyl leak was much worse but it could be as bad and you look at what happened to that crew, in three months, 28 of them were killed by radiation poisoning and 19 were killed as a result of infections they got as a result of having large patches of their skin burned off by the radiation and another 10 endured radiation six next, vomiting and rapidly dropping blood count so the
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crews now doing this may well be susceptible to the same fate of the chernobyl crew. >>shepard: lie from new york city, thank you. several countries including the united states are now checking for food and imports this come from japan for possible contamination. they are now checking for contamination, any food coming from here, and people are being checked, as well, and officials in the nations here on the map say they are conducting random checks of any general fish and vegetables, and dairy products and we are told workers and airports are going through containers and sending products to laboratories for further testing and the white house also has ordered food safety checks but foils at the world health organization say there is no evidence of contamination anywhere outside of japan. a number of health officials say the radiation leaks here in japan pose no threat to the united states. regardless americans on the west
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coast are making a run on you supplements that protect against three reside cancer after radiation exposure and a number of suppliers of the supplement report they have sold out of their stockpile even though experts say radiation will dissipate in 5,500 miles between the united states and the damaged nuclear plants in japan. and now the news from los angeles. trace, this sounds silly, frankly, do we know where the biggest rush for the pills is happening, and why someone isn't trying to talk the people off the ledge? it is 5,500 miles away, trace. >>trace: and hawaii is 4,000 miles away, it start flood and is pushing its way east. hawaii saw an uptick and now we are seeing sales increase if california, washington state and oregon and if you look at the map they see increases as far east as michigan. in fact, one couple called
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that is crazy. >>trace: you mentioned the health department, the california health department is saying to not take the pills. the theirry -- the theory is they fill your thyroid with iodine and the nuclear material cannot get in there but there are side effects associated with the iodine pills including allergies, upset stomach, goiters and a loss of appetite, nausea and acne. the surgeon general was asked about the pills and she said it was good to be prepared and they have now come out and said, no, no, she was not intimating that people should take the pills because right now there is if danger and they should not take the pills at all. >>shepard: don't do that, trace, thank you, we have a crew of a dozen-plus right here with me, tonight, in the overnight hours and we are not taking the
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pills. we have them coming in, if something happens and we're only 100 miles away but sitting 7,000 miles away in michigan, don't be dumb. the united states military has huge relief effort for the earthquake and the tsunami survivors. we will go to the pentagon for an update on what the troops are doing. and he's... not so much. well, for a driver like you, i would recommend our new snapshot discount. this little baby keeps track of your great driving habits, so you can save money. [sighs] amazing. it's like an extra bonus savings. [ cackling ] he's my ride home. how much can the snapshot discount save you? call or click today. the smell of home made chili whatever scents fill your household,
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>>shepard: investors fear over the disaster in japan are pushing stocks down for the third straight day. as you see from the chart the dow jones industrial average opened low and dropped to 11,558 and japan's economy is the third large of the in all the world after the united states and
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china. accounting for 10 percent of all u.s. exports and now a look at the big board from lower manhattan. you can see the dow jones industrial average is up 171 points to 11,684. this came after a rise in the nikkei on wednesday here in japan. now there are concerns what it will do when it opens in a few hours. news this afternoon, the united states military is now prohibiting personnel from going 50 miles of japan's troubled nuclear plant well beyond the japanese recommendation of 12.4 miles and military officials are giving the pills to air american who are flying near the plant. and the u.s. navy now has 14 ships off the western coast of japan helping in the relief efforts, and so far we're told crews have friend 200 supply missions delivering more than 100,000 pounds of food and water
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but a worker tells the newsroom the situation is much, much worse in the north of japan. >> we are staying in the shelter and living with them and eating with them and it's up to half a million in this city alone, 100,000 people in shelters. and dinner a few, an hour ago was a bowl of rice and a carrot, really. >> do they have enough food? >> no. >> well stocked with water? >> it was so bad just now we went to try and fill up gas and they said they did not have gas for the police cars. so, there is in gasoline in the city anymore. >> and the food and water? >>guest: nothing. the stores are empty. we, the people are lined up. there probably was 300 cars lined up at the gas station. >>shepard: he says he has not seen any military personnel at
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all wins arriving in the town north of fukushima and now a pentagon spokesman. colonel, good to talk to you. the humanitarian situation is very bad. is there a way for your folks to help? >>guest: absolutely. as you and your listeners know, the united states military is the best trained, best equipped force in the world and we certainly have the equipment and the training to operate in any number of environments and we have lots of skills in operating both humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations like this. >>shepard: some of the folks to the north of us, they have not seen local officials out and about distributing food, and they have not seen anybody. i am in the trying to cast blame on anyone, i am telling you how things are. even in tokyo, a town of millions and millions and millions, stores are empty. western at a 7/11. nothing. is there a supply chain that can
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help or will the days ahead get ugly? >>guest: well, from a military perspective i am not sure i can help with that. i understand there are a lot of people taking steps to buy gasoline and groceries and things like that because of the situation. but our military is there to provide whatever assistance the japanese government needs and we can go into those areas and help if needed. >>shepard: i know you have a lot of ships out there and i read that you are supplying them with iodine and the rest. our folks are safe at sea off the coast, right? >>guest: absolutely. the potassium iodine have been used sparingly only when a medical professional has determined that either in advance of a mission where they could go near the radiation hazard or after crews have come
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back and have had exposure, again, after they go through decontamination procedures, if a medical professional feels those tablets might help, they are given, again, at this point it has been very limited and done mostly as a precaution. >>shepard: thank you, sir, thank you very much. >>guest: all right. and i am a marine. >>shepard: i cannot overstate what this weather is like. the national weather service says it is 35 right now are we are. it is not. it's colder than that. and the winds are blowing out at about 30 miles per hour and your face feels like it is freezing off. and the very thought of women and children being outdoors to the north of here where the temperatures are in the low 20's with wind chills if the high single digit i cannot imagine any human being surviving the
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night without shelter, i cannot imagine. the radiation has been blown across the united states and we are seeing snow in parts of the north, hampering relief efforts. our meteorologist is live from the fox extreme weather center in new york. we travel to pleases that are freezing all the time, and we walk the concrete of new york city. this is miserable, rick. >>guest: one of the things, if you are wet at all, everything is completely soaked from so much of the water going through and anyone who has that to deal with, also, such a dangerous night ahead as you are saying, and a couple of nights actually, it will continue to be this way, this is satellite image, a storm has moved through, and, still, the circulation right there coming across the northern side of japan, winds are out of the northwest and almost everyone dealing with wind at 15- to 20-miles per hour and that is enough to make the wind chill, the upper single digits up to
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around 20 degrees is what it feels like. this is a forecast, thursday, friday, and saturday, you see the temperatures climb a little bit, good news by saturday, but, then we start to see a storm system move in with a little bit of rain and snow by tuesday. so it will be this up and down pattern for the next number of days and right now, it is the worst of it and take a look, though, in sendai, one bright side to the wind, blowing any potential radiation out over the pacific and that is a bit good news in the middle of the cold night. >>shepard: i am now up to six layers and i cannot imagine, they say there are thousands who do not have any shelter at all ... i don't think humans can survive this with wind chills in the teens, can they? >>guest: you can survive it if you get some sort of blanket, you get together and huddle
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together, g anything you can to put over yourself, something that is dry, you can, but a along light people would have forecast bite. >>shepard: thank you, rick, from the weather center. thank you very much. we will get to persons who are waiting for news. ?ó@]
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more water in the pool that housed the spent fuel rods. at fukushima reactor four is the spot that was off line when the emergency happened, when the tsunami hit. in these pools, there, were spent fuel rods that were hot, obviously, and you have to keep water going over them or they will meltdown and they will put radiation into the air. the water had to be kept over them. our nuclear agency, the united states nuclear agency, says that the water in those pools is gone that means it has evaporated. he have in the kept enough water in there and it sends radioactive material into the air when it evaporates and they tried to keep water on it but this was so much danger to the people they were only bringing them in, in 15 minutes shifts and it was difficult to get water in the pools. now the u.s. nuclear agency chief says there is no more
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water in the spent fuel rods' pool. that means it can everheat. there could be another fire like we had tuesday and like we had yesterday. and that further means there could be an enormous radiation leak and it could cause many problems for people in the area and for the ground contamination and the water and it, as well. the truth is, we don't know yet exactly to what degree this damage has happened. because getting information is impossible. this word comes not from the japanese but the united states nuclear agency saying there is no more water in a place where water must be to prevent disaster. we will have updates throughout the hour. thousands are waiting to hear the fate of loved one after the natural disaster here that wiped out entire cities and towns. american did not hear from her sister until yesterday, five days after the disaster. she joins us now from her home
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in north dakota. thank you, jessica. >> thank you for having me. >>shepard: so, it must have been a horrible series of days there, there was an initial text message, right, and then nothing, is that right? >>guest: she texted directly after the earthquake and then, of course, they lost power and the cell phones but she let me know she was all right but on monday we had news that someone thought the tsunami hit their town and of course we were alter filed and waiting to hear from her, and finally we got the news yesterday which gave us, you cannot describe the feeling. >>shepard: because the truth is, the tsunami did hit that town, in fact, we are seeing pictures and it is our understanding it turned out she wasn't this when it hit, right? >>guest: right, she was at the school, i guess, which was, i don't know the information is confusing coming from every person it is something else. that is the west part of it,
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there is no information out there. and no one really to contact. to help out with reaching people and finding loveed ones. and then the middle of night and she sent me a text message that said "i'm alive," and those were the greatest words i have ever read in my whole live knowing and having, just knowing that, you know, you cannot and for more. >>shepard: but you don't know where she is staying? or how she is getting provisions or anything like that, yet, right? >>guest: right, they have had running water but food has been scarce and since she is north of sendai it is very cold and they were without heat and the earthquakes have in the stopped and she is busy from the nonstop movement of the earth. i know her and a couple of other girls are trying to make their way to tokyo today.
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>>shepard: we can hope they do, it is actually nighttime here and 4:30 in the morning, or so, and conditions are just miserable, but, we will hope she does make it to tokyo. she made it through. thank you for checking in with us, we are glad to hear your good news, that is hard to come by. we are monitoring developments on the nuclear situation here in japan. and what we have just learned from the united states nuclear agency that there is no more water in the pool holding the spent fuel rods. that's very bad news, indeed. stay tuned. ?c are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement
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plagued the nation for weeks. this as qaddafi's forces launched new attacks on the rebel stronghold. government war planes bombed the military airport inside benghazi as insurgents with grenades shot at libyan ships off the coast. rebel forces reeling from the relentless attack as his troops move east. president obama today calling on both the king of saudi arabia and the sing of bahrain to use "maximum restraint," amid reports of violence against demonstrators in bahrain. six are dead in clashes between security and hundreds of anti-government protesters with soldiers police stormed the square. it is not clear if soldiers from other gulf nations helped in the violent crackdown but saudi arabia sent a team of soldiers to the oil rich kingdom in support of bahrain's sunni
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monarch and most protesters in because rain are shiite. and now the news from mike and the white house. what is the administration's message on bahrain today? >>reporter: hillary clinton is traveling and calls the situation "alarming," and says that excessive security crackdowns, and use of force against protesters is not the answer and calling for restraint the president of the united states picked up the phone and called the king of bahrain and the king of saudi arabia but a lost speakers -- a lot of experts are saying this is a fight for the survival of the monarchy and there is a question of how much force they will use to retain power. >>trace: talk about the producter concerns of bahrain where the u.s. has a significant naval presence. >>reporter: home of the 5th fleet of the navy and a situation where you have
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monarchies that are sue -- sunni led and iran is shia led and sunnies trying to hold on to power, a major sectarian struggle for the middle east and one of great concern for the united states which as we mentioned at the top, is the home of the 5th fleet, the navy's 5th fleet in bahrain. trace? >>trace: where stability is scarce, thank you from the white house, mike. the story of a c.i.a. contractor held in pakistan just took a huge turn. raymond davis is headed home. a former c.i.a. operative explains what is behind the development next. but first back to shephard smith in tokyo. >>shepard: we know there is a new development in the nuclear
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crisis and catastrophe, no more water in a pool of spent nuclear fuel rods which could mean another disaster on top of disaster. we are waiting for further information from the north. impressive resume. thank you.
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>>shepard: live in tokyo we will have an expert on for an explanation of what it means when the authorities say that there is no more water in a pool with spent fuel rods at the nuclear reactor site number four in fukushima. and now back to trace in los angeles for more of today's news. trace? >>trace: the man said to be a former c.i.a. operative jailed in pakistan on murder charges, has reportsedly left the country. and there are conflicting reports whether the so-called blood money played a role in this. raymond davis placed two counsels of murder for allegedly killing two men but today a court acquitted him all charges according to u.s. officials.
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that's after the u.s. may have paid the families of the murder victims between $1 million to $2 million according to lawyers for the families. i say "may have," because secretary of state hillary clinton denies that report. keep in mind the united states provides more than $3 billion in annual aid to pakistani. and now mike baker, a former c.i.a. convert operations officer and president of diligence llc, a global intelligence and security firm. mike, what do you make of this conflict between the blood money, hillary clinton says we did not pay it, and attorneys in pakistan say we did. >>guest: well, i believe also someone in the administration alluded to the fact that this is likely the exchange that took place. in all honesty paying compensation and having charges dropped having an acquittal at the request or approval of the victims' family is not uncommon in pakistan and the surrounding region. so, there will be no surprise if
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it turns out compensation was agreed to as part of this release of raymond davis. and, frankly the fact that hillary clinton has come out and denied that it was the case, it is odd because if you think about it, if the pakistanis are saying, we take compensation, but if it is in the true and they are appeasing the public who has been in an uproar, then that is fine but what is the point of hillary clinton saying that it wasn't the case? >>trace: it is important to point out for owe viewers we talk about "blood money," this is pakistani tradition where the families of the victim are paid the money, they go to court and say we will drop charges and the person is exonerated and the question, why was it so important to get raymond davis out of the country so quickly? if this want to trial would that have been impossible? >>guest: it would complicate the situation. as the end of the day, in a situation lick this, not just
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with raymond davis but other times when these things happen, the host country, in this case pakistan, let the government and their intelligence service want it to go arrest. now, he wasn't released immediately. and when that happened, it was inestible this would drag on for a period of time. because the judiciary, the media, they whipped up the public, and in an uproar over the shootings that took place. now, i'm surprised in a sense that we did get him released as quickly as we did because this was a lot of pressure on what essentially could be described as a relatively weak pakistani government to not release him. >>trace: you say that the pakistani intelligence wanted us to go away but this thing kind of created a little bit of conflict between the c.i.a. and pakistani intelligence. does this make all that go away? are things better now between our c.i.a. and their equivalent? >>guest: it is an incredibly
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complex relationship, a strong relationship has that its ups and downs, and so the problem is, again, the isa, they are professional, and sometimes we question their motives if certain ways, but make no mistake, they did not want this to linger as a problem. we have bigger issues to work with. >>trace: we do, troops over there. mike baker, former c.i.a. agent. and moscow to shep in tokyo. >>shepard: we will have an expert on the developing situation at the nuclear plants to the north of us. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspireby you. and we've been honored to walk with you
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>>shepard: and a developing crisis to the north of here in
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japan at the nuclear facility which we have been speaking. reactor number four has the spent nuclear fuel rods and that reactor was not online when the, lit and the tsunami came after it but, instead, the fuel rods are outside a containment core and in a pool designed to keep them cool. now, the united states nuclear agency says that all of the water in that pool has evaporated. what does that mean? from the department of nuclear engineering at university of california, explain to us what this means, sir. >>guest: well, if there is not enough water in the cooling pool, that means --. >>shepard: there is no water. >>guest: that means in this case there is fresh spent fuel in that pool so they have been taken out just months ago or so, from the actual reactor, and there is still heed that needs
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to be taken out. if there is no water heat cannot be taken off and that leads to the heating of the rods, and it can be damaged so it is possible that the fuel rods get damaged and sense there is the roof of reactor seeing damage, this is more leakage of radiation out of the site. >>shepard: it is my understanding that the outer shell of the fuel rods could catch fire, doctor, and that because they are outside a containment dome this could be a very bad situation, indeed, is that everstating it. >>guest: it is a bad situation. that is for sure. and you are correct, if there is ... (inaudible) if the fuel rods over heat they can have a reaction and this could lead to a similar explosion as we saw before on
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react number one and three. >>shepard: we will await further information from the japanese authorities as we approach 5:00 a.m. on a thursday here in tokyo, and we will have continuing coverage throughout the day from our correspondents here and around the world, "your world," is after the commercial break.
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